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    "id": 708201,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Chumel",
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        "legal_name": "Samuel Chumel Moroto",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I will be brief because I also want to hear from my colleagues on how we can improve handling of this menace. I want to thank the Committee although at one time we had to exchange with the Chair when he went to my constituency without informing me. I know they are doing good things. But because it is not only to find how cattle rustling is being carried out, you need also to know the cause. Why are these people doing this? Nobody would wish to go and steal from a neighbour. Nobody would wish to kill a neighbour. These people know each other; they are married. If you talk of the Maasai, Kuria, Pokot, Turkana and the Sebei of Uganda and Trans-Nzoia, these are people who know each other. But there are circumstances which force them to do that. If we are only talking about passing these laws without seeing how to cure the problem, we will be doing nothing. When Kenyatta was there, he carried heavy operations in these areas using the military. When Moi came in for 24 years, he did the same thing. In fact, the worst one was the 1984 operation where the person who was leading is the current CS for Interior and Coordination of National Government. But nothing good came out of it. Cattle rustling continued; killings continued. But I want to thank the immediate former President, Hon. Kibaki. Before that, Moi used to use ‘nyundo’ operation where you just conquer once and kill. But Kibaki came with the ‘ Dumisha Amani Operation’ . When he was doing this, he initiated some programmes like health facilities where the army which used to hit us hard had to come and treat people. They also had to build roads and health centres and consider getting water for animals and human beings. And this problem went down. Like now when you talk of Pokot and Turkana, there is nothing. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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