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    "id": 70836,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mrs. Kilimo",
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        "legal_name": "Linah Jebii Kilimo",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I hope you can protect me once more so that the hon. Member can hear my answer, because I have already answered that question and I will repeat my answer. The Kshs5.8 billion was loaned to coffee co-operative societies by the World Bank and Co-operative Bank. The World Bank gave this money to the SACCOs through the Treasury. Now, that has already been paid. Those who are going to pick whatever they are going to pick in people’s houses or homesteads, these co-operative societies must have taken loans from somewhere else and not the ones that the Government paid off. For example, you will find that co-operative societies can make their own arrangements with Co-operative Bank of Kenya or other SACCOs. Most of these farmers started as co-operative unions but at some point the Government told them to split so that some co-operative unions would deal with fertilizer and seedlings and others would lend money. So, unless he makes it clear, the money that the Government released was to offset the World Bank loan and the Co-operative Bank loan. The co-operative societies had been guaranteed by the Government."
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