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    "content": "never try to investigate ourselves. We are being guided by a paper here called the Constitution which belongs to the people of Kenya. We were sent here by our people to protect the Constitution. I doubt what kind of work this Joint Committee will do. There is nothing happening in the National Assembly that can make them change their mind. My friend, Sen. Wetangula, looks at it in a legal way. That is wrong because the law belongs to the people of this country. It is the people who gave us this power, but if you do not use it satisfactorily, then return it back to them. That is where we are heading. When we came here in 2013, I found that we were very energetic – young lawyers, young politicians and others who appeared to know everything. In fact, we all went one morning although I refused to listen to the judgment. You cannot judge politics. You will say yes and somebody else will come out and say this could have been done this way. So, the few Members who have been mentioned are going to be an obstacle for this development. They are not there by themselves because 12 Members of Parliament are not capable of changing others unless there is some whispering somewhere. Chair, you will agree that you have served for many years as Member of Parliament and you have seen a lot. I recall, at one time, you were sacked from the Cabinet through the radio and you understand. We need to be careful without rushing to form committees. When I heard my friend reading out the names of this Committee, I believed that we will not move anywhere. We are not going to change the National Assembly to think otherwise. The only way you can make them speak otherwise is to have consultations and sit down with them. I talked to a few of them. When you believe in these issues, even a villager who was a politician and you know it, you cannot change him if he says no and he will continue fighting you. We all know how important this matter is, but we refuse to recognise its importance. We put our ego and desire in front so as to be seen that we are doing well. That cannot work. The Constitution has given us a lot of power. I was consulting somebody and I asked him whether the Constitution gives the Senate the power on some matter. For example, Article 96 provides the powers of the Senate. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Constitution is a respected document and there should be no obstacles. Where we are cornered is where we expect money to be given by the National Assembly. If this were a law or an amendment to the Constitution, we could have been talking about it throughout and not lamenting. However, it is okay. The Committee will be meeting here several times within 21 days and they will report. We should not expect so much unless change takes place. The change is where one says no to change. I have no doubt in my mind that when it almost went through, the President had supported this idea, and everybody supported it. However, somewhere because they have invisible powers, or sometimes invisible systems of government, there was no way of retrieving it. This matter has nothing to do with the President of Kenya. It is a matter between the two Houses by showing their personality and supremacy. Supremacy is when one thinks of being supreme and important. It is the beginning of being a fool. Let us all sit down and decide whether this matter can be negotiated amicably because when Sen. Murungi, Sen. Haji and I at one time talked to the Speaker of the National Assembly, although people were saying that The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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