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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ethuro",
    "speaker_title": "The Speaker",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 158,
        "legal_name": "Ekwee David Ethuro",
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    "content": " Order, hon. Senators. A number of you have raised the issue whether this should go to County Public Accounts and Investments Committee (CPAIC) or the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget; including the real contestation of whether to consider or to investigate. First, one thing is very clear; it cannot be CPAIC because it is a Sessional Committee. All petitions go to the relevant Standing Committee. My understanding is that every Committee of the Senate operates under Article 96(3). Oversight is not restricted to the specific committees. It is not finance. Some of these committees have direct provisions in terms of who receives the report of the Controller of Budget and who receives the report of the Auditor-General, but as far as I am concerned we are dealing with an issue about Nyamira County Small Holders Commercialization Programme. So, it is an agricultural programme. I also do not think the word “to consider” excludes investigation. Therefore, when you have a programme, you consider who benefitted. In fact, the issue is not value for money. It is; who are the beneficiaries of the programme; whether it should be the governor, his family members or the poor residents of Nyamira. So, it is all a matter of saying; what is the amount of money allocated to this programme? How many cows were bought? Who are the beneficiaries of the cows? Do they qualify according to the criteria set? Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., do you need any specialised training to check whether it is a cow and confirm whether it produces milk? In fact, if anything then, the product of a dairy cow can only be vetted by the agriculturalists. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., on that area, you can trust your Chair. Therefore, I maintain that the relevant Standing Committee is the Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries. We are already on the next order; Papers laid. Proceed, Sen. Sijeny."
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