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    "id": 718298,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Pukose",
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        "legal_name": "Robert Pukose",
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    "content": "“contact,” it means somebody contacting you even on the back. It also means the two bodies coming together, it could be in a crowded place, a queue in a bank or any other place you are seeking services. I remember when we were going through university; we used to have an ‘opening ceremony’ where we would line up to get food. Guys would start shoving and pushing. That could be considered a sexual offence. We are taking the definition to an extreme level. I remember the lady from Kisumu saying, even winking or staring is an indecent act; that when you stare at somebody you are being seductive. This country has “team mafisi” and they will go to court to declare that unconstitutional because when you stare, you are just appreciating. Somebody could be dressed nicely; it does not mean that you are staring to have anything that is sexual in it. You could be staring to look at a nice cloth or appreciating a nice figure of a lady. That to me will be an extreme level. As much as we want to make laws, when we bring activism into making of laws, it defeats the purpose. As Hon. Kang’ata puts it, I think Hon. Florence Mutua has boda boda transport services in her county. How do you expect a boda boda guy to transport a lady who is seated behind him? The passenger will hold on to the boda boda guy. At times when an emergency brake is applied, their bodies will become even closer. As they are being transported, the breasts of the lady will touch the boda boda guy. Does that mean it is an indecent contact? Hon. Florence Mutua, who is my friend, should rethink this definition for the sake of our boda boda brothers, matatu passengers and any other areas we think could make them be taken to court. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, the other issue is the definition of “indecent act” in relation to exposure or display of any genital organs, breasts, buttocks or pornographic material to any person against his or her will. Now, when somebody dresses in a manner that is exposing him, how do you determine it is against the other person’s will? How do you determine that? A person might look at it out of curiosity because you are looking at a person who is naked. For example, if a naked person or mad man runs out while naked towards you, do you just face the other side and not see this person because he has exposed himself? Or, for instance, when two people are fighting---"
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