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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Bunyasi",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "John Sakwa Bunyasi",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, I rise to contribute to this Bill. It is an important one in any society that is aspiring to become civilised. I have one fundamental worry about the general thrust of the Bill. We live in a society in which the law enforcement agencies do not respect even their own citizens. They usually handle ordinary people in a very intimidating way. They do so in a way that shows no respect, especially when people go to report crimes. It is full of threats and so on. Here we get a Bill that is saying that when you have a suspect in your custody, you should handle that suspect in a humane way; a way that is not degrading. However, that is not the nature of their business. The nature of their business is to dehumanise, degrade, threaten and intimidate. When you see people who are, perhaps, serious suspects or potential criminals being handled in a way that is even better than the ordinary persons they meet on the street, I think this is going to be a tall order. I see that as an inherent contradiction. Here, we are seeking good things but in a society in which those responsible do not act that way, I see a real cause for worry. Two, in respect of Clause 4 that prohibits extradition, this is a reason to believe that a person being extradited to some place would face humane treatment and all those good things. There is a risk there, which is being a haven for people who have actually committed those crimes. This will be allowing such people to play around with the law of the host country, say, Kenya, which would be unwilling to return them. The way this is worded - I hope that in the Committee stage we will have some proposed amendments – I advocate that Kenya needs to be a civilised nation by returning those kind of criminals to where they committed the crimes. It happens too often. We have had these issues even within our region. People who have committed crimes in neighbouring countries come to Kenya and we do not ask them to go back. There is a big risk there that this proposed law would be used as a cover. I also think it is important that alternative ways of finding information be used as is done in other countries. The law enforcement agencies have to become more sophisticated in the way they gather information. You cannot have somebody who, say, is a murderer refusing to co- The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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