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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Korir",
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        "legal_name": "Wesley Kipchumba Korir",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker for giving me the opportunity to support this Bill. From the outset, this is a timely Bill as we move with the world. The world has agreed under the UN that torture is obsolete. Torture was an effective way of gathering information from criminals a long time ago since there were no other options. The world has come of age in terms of technology. We now have other ways of getting information. Any country that still uses torture to get information is going backwards. I was saddened when I heard the President of the US, Donald Trump, praising the use of torture as a way of getting information. He is still in the old-age and the world should come out strong and refuse torture for their people. The US opened the Guantanamo Bay Torture Camp, but they have never known where to put those people. They are now struggling because there are people who have been there for years and they have nowhere to take them. In my view, torture is not an effective way of gathering information. As the Member for Rarieda pointed out, I am worried as I look at Clause 30 of the Bill, which states that: “30. The Children Act is amended by repealing Section 18.” Section 18 of the Children Act states that: “(1) No child shall be subjected to torture, cruel treatment or punishment, unlawful arrest or deprivation of liberty. (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, no child shall be subjected to capital punishment or to life imprisonment. (3) A child offender shall be separated from adults in custody. (4) A child who is arrested and detained shall be accorded legal and other assistance by the Government as well as contact with his family.” What is the rationale for repealing this section? Are we saying that children can now be tortured, punished and put in same protective custody with adults? We need to get an explanation on this amendment. What alternative do we have? If we repeal Section 18 of the Children Act, what are we doing with children? I am happy to note a section which says that part of the mental and psychological torture include shame infliction such as stripping a victim naked, parading a victim in public places, shaving a victim’s head or putting a mark on a victim’s body against their will. Women who marched on the streets of Nairobi with the slogan “My dress, my choice” can now smile. Stripping people should be something of the past. In this age, we do not need to strip our sisters and mothers because of their dressing. We now have a law that will put anyone who does that to jail. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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