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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Nyikal",
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        "legal_name": "James Nyikal",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker for this opportunity. I stand to support the nomination of Bishop Wabukala as the Chairman of the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC). Corruption is a huge problem in this country. It is pervasive and immense in magnitude. In fact, it has become the normal code of conduct, if we are honest with ourselves. It has been institutionalised to the extent that many institutions cannot deal with it. Institutions that are put in place to fight corruption are unable to do so. Maybe, as others have said, it is time to look at the church or the teaching fraternity and the family so that we raise a population that sees corruption as a vice and not a virtue. To a large extent in this country, corruption is seen as a virtue. Perhaps, the most glaring example of this is the total inability of the EACC to retain the heads that are appointed to it. Perhaps, it is the pervasiveness of corruption in the society that actually knocks out all those people with very impressive qualifications that go there and do not get far. Perhaps, it is the secretariat itself. On this, I want to join the others who have said that it is negligence on our part to see chairman after chairman leaving the Commission and not acting on the secretariat. I believe there must be something within that secretariat that contributes to the inability of the chairs that we appoint. I know the Bishop well. It is good for this country that he has been appointed to this position. Although the report is acceptable, it is very general. You do not get very specific attributes and achievements that will bring out the stature of the Archbishop as I really know him. For example, under his educational qualifications, we talk of a Master‟s Degree in Religion. That is too general. We talk of a Doctorate in Divinity. It is not clear whether we are talking of the same qualifications or two different qualifications. Be that as it may, in general, it is a good report. The Bishop is getting into an extremely difficult job and I think he will have to exercise extreme wisdom to run this institution. I have noted that he has put a clear limitation as to how far he can go in dealing with corruption. Other countries have had to go that way. Sometimes people commit heinous crimes of such magnitude that perhaps, it may be necessary if the society gets rid of them. In his wisdom, he will bring in severe enough measures that will show all of us that we need to get rid of corruption. We must be ready to stop interference from the Executive and politicians. I believe that as politicians and the Executive, we have not adequately supported the chairs that have been there. Therefore, he must be ready to do that. In reality and in life, if you are afraid of losing a job, you cannot do it properly. He should adopt that attitude. With that, I support the appointment of Bishop Wabukala to this position."
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