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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Midiwo",
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        "legal_name": "Washington Jakoyo Midiwo",
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    "content": "Revenue Authority (KRA). These companies are many now and to get a licence is pricey. The platform which they use to bet is a foreign platform. Someone is saying ataangusha . Whatever this House is doing will come to haunt your children and your great grandchildren. It cannot always happen like that. I have invited people. That is the purpose of a committee. I have told all of them that if there is anything that is offending them, let us put in law. In 1999, as superpower, the State of Russia abolished gambling and betting. They said, it cannot happen in their country that you curve that kind of addiction where people are gambling their lives away. Here, we are willing to have these people do their business but we want the State to know what they are doing. If Nkaisserry is an honest man, he would share with the Committee the intelligence information about the betting and gambling companies which he shared with me. But because some people think they can always use their shenanigans using money to make sure that the society is not organised, they think they will see us, but David Were is here with his Committee. Let us sit; we are not putting them out of business. Let us sit and agree on what is best for our country. Some law can happen. I want to disclose that many of those companies have talked to me and I told them to bring their proposals. Parliament cannot misuse its authority to take people out of their imagined businesses or businesses that they have their money to establish. It is only fair that Parliament is not intimidated when it is trying to do its work. There is an attempt and some imaginations that this Parliament will be intimidated under your leadership. It will not. Fourteen-and-a-half years ago, my predecessor, Hon. Joe Donde, when I got here, told me: “I was following the thing of interest rates, and if you do nothing, please finish my work.” We are friends until today. When I came here, I inherited the Joe Donde literature and started the work on interest rates. One day, the former Secretary of State Hon. Muthaura called me and said: “Hon. Midiwo, the President is looking for you.” At that time, I had put an amendment that had stopped the Finance Bill from passing because I knew that is the only way we could nail the banks. When I went to see the President, I found the Prime Minister, Hon. Uhuru Kenyatta, Hon. Kimunya and Hon. Githae sitting there. They told me that to control interest rates is a bad thing because we have a free economy. When I got a chance to talk, I told His Excellency President Kibaki: “You are naked, but these people cannot tell you that you are naked. They are telling you to walk on the streets, but they fear to tell you that you are naked.” The President looked down and then up and said: “I think the young man is right. The banks are exploiting Kenyans.”"
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