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    "id": 724753,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo (Jnr.)",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this issue came before the Committee of Finance, Commerce and Budget sometime back. I am surprised that it has not been resolved because the amounts that we are talking about are in excess of Kshs10 billion. I agree with Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that the matter of unbanked money does not only affect Nairobi City County. It is everywhere. It is in fact one of the issues that was before us in the Gov. Gachagua Petition. Counties have incurred pending bills amounting to Kshs37 billion. It is no wonder that governors are attacking the Bill by Sen. Wamatangi which would ensure that there is a schedule of assets and liabilities before the new governors assume office. I am afraid that my friend, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, is stepping into a county when he is elected to inherit debts. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, unfortunately, now that we do not have a good history of clearing petitions, would there not be another method through the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget who are seized of this matter to interrogate this matter differently? We are going to end our sessions and this matter will not have been resolved under the normal procedures of the Senate. Therefore, as you give your directions, the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget can find another method. Where is the Auditor-General and the Controller of Budget? Have these people abdicated their responsibilities? We, as the Senate, are called upon to save the counties not to have debts in excess of Kshs50 billion towards the next General Election."
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