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    "id": 7275,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. M. Kilonzo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 47,
        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, when we talk of public participation, I am more committed to public participation than anyone else. The moment your ruling takes effect tomorrow and the Bill is read the First Time, we will engage not just Parliament but the entire country, and will consider this proposal in terms of Article 256(2). I see no requirement and I stand to be corrected, but I am also a Senior Counsel of this country, which is not easy to attain. It arises in the sense that I examined this document very carefully. I have almost memorised the entire Constitution. I find no area where, before you make a proposal, you are required to have public participation and consultation. You may have consultations for developing the proposal and that was done, as I will demonstrate to Parliament and the country when we start on the proposals between tomorrow and the 90th day; you will, in the end, say that Mutula is becoming boring. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as to the issue raised by hon. Mbadi, which was also raised by hon. Mungatana, on any other matter as captured under Article 256(1)(b). As I said, a constitution is a living document. It is a conversation. Kenya entered into a conversation with itself on 27th August, 2010. This conversation is going to go on until my Lord Jesus Christ comes and goes. Even those who will be left behind after he takes all of us to Heaven, will continue with that conversation. Now, allow me to contribute to the words “any other matter”. In my view, “any other matter” means that in prosecuting this Bill, I will not speak of anything other than what the Bill contains. I cannot prosecute anything other than what the Bill contains. You know, I went to high school. I read a lot of English. I did literature. I did law. I think I have a slight understanding of the English language. If the framers of this Constitution wanted to say that you cannot put several items in the same Bill, they would have said “No more than one matter shall appear in a constitutional amendment Bill”."
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