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    "content": "There is an illegality that has been committed, not only by the county governments, but also by the National Government institutions because there are people who are suffering as a result of this action. They carry debts because they were doing business. However, they can no longer do it due to lack of payment. It is important for this petition to be considered by the Committee. They should table a report of what needs to be done to implement the provision of the PFM Act. We need to address the bigger public policy decision on why the county governments should procure when they do not have the money to pay when the law says that you can only procure when you have the money. Is that not a violation of the law? Can the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) do something about such situations? There are people who have been told to proceed to the courts and judgments have been made. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. has said that those people should go to court. We have situations where people carry judgments around in the street. They have the judgment, but they cannot enforce it for they are being told that it cannot be paid and it will not be paid. Attaching Government property also becomes a problem for they do not even know which property to attach. We need that Committee to have this petition and come back to this Senate with the bigger policy decision on what is going to be done. It is should not just be for the two ladies, but it should be a public policy decision."
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