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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Rop",
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        "legal_name": "Jackson Kipkorir Rop",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this Motion. As the Vice-Chair of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), I expected the Chairman to give me the opportunity to second but, nonetheless, I thank Hon. Eseli for elaborating on the issues that we went through well, when we were interrogating the witnesses that appeared before us. This Report is in public domain and, somehow, it has made some of us to make more enemies than friends. For your information, I think I was defeated in the just ended nominations because of this Report. Somewhere, I must have stepped on some individuals who were mentioned in this Report. Nonetheless, I want to say that, as indicated by the Chair and the Seconder, this NYS saga was really a well-designed and orchestrated expenditure. That is because trying to investigate and find out who did what was a big problem. Young men, boys and girls were sent to us. They would brag around and say: “Were it not for the issues that came up, I could be a millionaire with Kshs50 million or even Kshs500 million in my pocket right now. This is a business that is readily available out there.” We have discovered as a Committee that Government expenditures are not properly utilised and used for the intended purposes. This country will cry forever when we have sharks manning our resources and when we have people who do not care what the public are saying, and start thinking of how they are going to be wealthy by the time they are exiting from those seats. We realised this even when we came up with the Report on the Judiciary. That has been elaborated very well by Hon. (Dr.) Eseli - that the departments or ministries which come up with certain huge budges must be thoroughly investigated. That is because in the long run, they might not have the capacity and plans to utilise the funds that they have sourced for. Therefore, they will go into mass wasting of those resources because the issue of saying we must spend what has been allocated to us really does not help. Spending does not mean that we must exhaust everything to show that the ministry is operating. We can have the budget and do it on tangible projects that will be seen and, surely, we will know that, that ministry has spent the money that far. However, spending all the Kshs23 billion and realise that there is nothing that you have done The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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