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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. So, we are embarrassed. When we go there, we find two people. There used to be one fantastic gentleman called Tom Mboya. Now I do not know who else is there. He would hold the flag of Kenya high as a one-man or two-man team versus teams from India, the United States of America (USA) and other places which had 30 to 40 people. So, this Kenya Trade Remedies Bill must go together with the strengthening of the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in Geneva. Without that, there is nothing which is going to happen here. The other issue is that of the agency having good staff who are properly recruited in the way that is required for investigation and evaluation. What we do not want is for those staff who have been failures elsewhere to be dumped in that agency. I see no clause which gives them the power to arrest since they will be conducting investigations. I am asking my brother, Hon. David Ochieng, to listen. They will investigate and then they will take it to the police for action. This is not going to happen. There are other agencies and we have seen what happens. We wanted them to be given prosecutorial powers and the powers to arrest. So, we shall be looking at that and make some arrangements when it comes to my Committee. I hope we will do that. On this particular agency, I wonder why we have nine people and out of those nine, four are Principle Secretaries (PSs). I would like to see the actual remuneration of those PSs. Putting them in the board does not mean that they will get paid. I think we need to make it very clear. There is representation because they are already PSs. That is what happens in those agencies. They go there and take amazing amounts of money. They get paid two times to do the same job. I would like to look at that and make sure that we are very clear in the Bill that PSs who are in that particular agency are there because they are members of the Government and they do not get paid for doing the same job they are doing. The other issue is that of dumping. My colleague, Hon. Nyikal, talked about dumping of fish. It is very true. They were dumping Tilapia from China in Kisumu. We talked to our agencies and they said there is nothing they could do about it. We hope that, that particular The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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