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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Oyugi",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Augostinho Neto Oyugi",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. I made the decision to sit next to Hon. Kamama, so that we can oppose each other from close quarters. On this one, I really think he missed the point absolutely. We are establishing an appeals board. If you look at what he is trying to delete, he is trying to create an appeals board that is omnibus, for everyone else. But if you look at the representation that we had in the initial appeals board, there are reasons we put them there. We have a representative from the KNCHR and a representative from the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC). Issues of refugees and host communities are centrally very volatile. A representative of the Immigration Department was part of our appeals board. These are people who determine issues as to whether people are legitimately asylum seekers or not. The other representative was someone from the UNHCR. These are people with international knowledge of refugee issues. So, we are just not having an appeals board for the sake of the appeals board. The Committee is trying to create an appeals board of people with various knowledge whereas we are looking at institutional issues with regard to appeals. I request the Chair to find sense in what we had as our appeals board as opposed to just having an omnibus one. It is good to have an omnibus appeals board, but it is also good to see that we were trying to create an institutional appeals board where there is really experience drawn on. I oppose."
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