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    "id": 740642,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Okoth",
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        "legal_name": "Kenneth Odhiambo Okoth",
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    "content": "Hon. Agostinho was advised it is a money Bill and you may not proceed by reducing the size of Parliament and making it smaller and more affordable. What was he told? He was urged: “Go and come back with a better formula that increases the size of Parliament.” He did. When he came to this House again, the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and the Budget and Appropriations Committee – and Hon. Baiya is here. He knows how these things go. It got a nod but it was never published and brought here for debate. So, I wonder why we pay bright minds like Hon. Agostinho to go do a proper Bill and then it is not debated. Here we are debating Duale II Bill. What happened to Duale I Bill? What happened to Sen. Judith Sijeny’s Bill? Here we are debating Duale II as a formality. My reminder to the women and any person of good conscience who cares about inclusivity in our leadership: We are not going to realise this in the 12th Parliament. The reason we are discussing this is because Judge Mativo ordered that within 60 days, we must discuss it. Those 60 days expired last Monday. So, any right thinking Kenyan is within their right to petition the Chief Justice to write to the President to dissolve this Parliament. But this Parliament is getting dissolved next week. So, by the time you deliver the letter to the CJ and he considers the matter and delivers the same to the President, it will be in vain; it will have been passed by time. We are looking ahead to the 12th Parliament. I hope that more women will be elected on our parties and make it here. The first order of business in the 12th Parliament will be to finish implementing this issue. Let us also come up with a proper Bill on the issue of referendums. Two issues stand out in this country on how we involve public participation and how we do referendums. It is not clear. Those are gaps that we are leaving as the 11th Parliament. I hope whoever will be in the 12th Parliament will quickly address the guidelines and proper legislative basis for Kenyans holding a referendum. Number two is this: What constitutes proper public participation at the county assembly level and at the National Assembly level? Those are issues that we must address. Otherwise, we are neither here nor there. This issue will rear its head again in the 12th Parliament because this Bill is not going to pass. When we get a House that is not properly constituted, there might even be a constitutional crisis unless we proceed…I beg for one minute. I see my time is running out."
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