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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Gikaria",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, as I support, I wish Hon. Aghostinho Neto would sit next to the Chair. The aspect of minority and majority sitting in opposite directions is not very good. We do not have a problem with the Bill. We had very good sessions in Naivasha and later in Mombasa. I do not know if Hon. Aghostinho sat on the side of the majority there would be a problem. I am saying this because as we move on, he needs to assist the Chair with the amendments. We carefully looked at the amendments and there will be “give and take” moments. That is why we need Hon. Aghostinho close to us. The amendment we have made in Clause 32 was just tidying up with the existing laws of Kenya. I heard Hon. Okoth say it is weaker. It is not weak. We are saying Kenya is a signatory of international conventions and the Chair was trying to re-emphasise that. In Clause 32(b), he was saying it shall be subject to the laws of Kenya, including the Constitution itself. As we move on, let us not bombard the Chair by deleting or withdrawing clauses which may be of importance because we agreed as a Committee. I do not have any problem with Clause 32 but I think it is important for us to synergise our thinking so that we do not waste the good work we have done The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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