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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Oyugi",
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        "legal_name": "Augostinho Neto Oyugi",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Let me concede that we had many conversations with the Departmental Committee on Administration and National Security. A couple of things happened by the time we were discussing this Bill. For instance, the refugee issue in Kenya was hot and the country was bearing the brunt of many things. The Hon. Member for Kamukunji has spoken well with regard to what we want done in terms of management of refugees. The amendments he has proposed are good. The only problem is that they seek to reduce the management of refugees to an appendage of the Government. In my view, that is peripherally dangerous for us. The refuge burden in Kenya is such a huge thing that we need to give it consideration. Our proposal is threefold. Our initial view was that clauses 6 and 8 are not harmful because they just propose to give the Commission a bit of space and legitimacy. I think there is nothing that is harmful in having the Commission. However, if you make it an advisory committee, there will be a problem because you will be narrowing the sphere in which the Commission can operate. There is no extra cost that is incurred in the manner that Hon. Kang’ata has said. It is not harmful to have clauses 6, 7 and 8 as they are in the Bill. I was hoping that we agree with the Chairman. I do not want to look like I am changing things that we already discussed in the Committee. It is only better that we have a Refugee Commission in place. However, the Committee’s wisdom is that we should concede ground and agree to move forward. I think that will be the best direction for Kenya to take. Anything else we propose will be harmonizing the other amendments based on clauses 6, 7 and 8. I request the Chairman that he agrees with me."
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