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    "id": 763873,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Murkomen",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority Leader",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Speaker, as far as I am concerned, what is urgent is the question of destruction of livestock and lives. For that one, we have agreed that the answer must come next week. As to who owns this land and the adjacent land, I do not know where the urgency comes in. This is because if we request people at the Ministry of Lands to do a search and interrogate how that person came to own land, find out whether there was a lease agreement between the Agricultural Development Corporation (ADC) and any other person or historical injustice must have been done – how private owners who came there almost 40 years ago acquired the land - that requires time to do a clear and proper investigation. Madam Temporary Speaker, you have ordered on the question of destruction of life. In fact, I dare say that those who have lost their livestock, if they are listening to me and are in communication with the Senator - just the way he said - they should be recording statements with the police at the moment. Many ordinary citizens, even those who are schooled, always forget that if you want a proper record for purpose of following any violation or deprivation of right, including property, it is good to always have a record of official reporting of a crime that happened or that is purported to have happened. Therefore, on the question of livestock, life and the status of the people, I promise that I will try to give the answer in a week’s time. The question of ownership of property, with all due respect to my colleague, it cannot be urgent at the moment, if it is about 40 years of historical issues and so on. By the admission of my colleague here, he has already said that, that land is under ADC. We will also need to confirm whether that is true. We need to confirm the size of the land and how they acquired it, lease out and manage it. That will require time."
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