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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Motion to set up this Ad-Hoc Committee. I need not to say much about the Members because we have agreed. I want to remind the Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Murkomen, that there is a reason the Senate Minority Leader is in this House. I have two comments. First, given my experience in the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget, and having read the Bill, that this Committee should interrogate this issue. This is because even from the reading of this Bill, the Schedule that is being amended is the Schedule on conditional grants. The money that has not been disbursed is shareable revenue. The conditional grants are from the national Government, given to counties on conditions of their donor partners. The Senate Majority Leader should have interrogated this issue, so that we understand whether in future our counties will be starved of funds because there is a discrepancy on an agreement made between the national Government and the donor. That would be violation of the constitution. I do not believe that Article 219, which requires the Cabinet Secretary (CS), Treasury, to release funds once we have passed, should also be tied to conditional grants. This was on something that I believe will be raised here on the case of KSP grants in which we did not include the Division of Revenue for the last two financial years. With that in mind, the speed under which this Committee should act is not gainsaid, but that should be interrogated. The Committee and our technical team, that is, Mr. Masinde and others, should be able to advise us, because we do not want the CS, Treasury, to impose another condition that is not in law and the Constitution on conditional grants. The schedule that is attached to this Bill has got no discrepancy on shareable revenue. Therefore, the money that we have agreed and passed here, in our mandate under Article 96, is not affected. The statement made by my colleagues that we have procrastinated and stopped the disbursement of shareable revenue is not correct. With all that in mind and that said, I second."
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