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    "content": "65 years was not the one of 70 years. So, 70 years covers everybody and the above 65 years covers a few people. As a result, this has caused confusion. Could the Senate Majority Leader clarify if the programme where there is additional of Kshs6.5 billion covers everybody else who is not in the OPCT for 65 years and above. Does the 70 years include everybody because everybody in Makueni County above 70 years registered for this programme. Therefore, they have a legitimate expectation that they will get the Kshs2,000. So, that clarification is important. Finally, in the old cash transfer programme, the members above 65 years have been receiving this money biannually. It makes no sense to give a person who is suffering money twice a year. I have a number of questions to the Senate Minority Leader. First, what is the reason why this Kshs2,000 is not paid every month? Why do they have to go to KCB for their money? In a case like Makueni County where you have possibly three of them who hire a matatu that costs them almost Kshs20,000; and they spend a whole day traveling to go and collect Kshs2,000 then spend half of it on the matatus---- Is it not possible for the national Government to increase the base of the persons who can pay in terms of banks because there is no reason why KCB and Equity banks are favoured above other commercial banks? Why can we not have what they call “ Mtaani Agents” who can go to the villages and pay these people their Kshs2,000 so that they withdraw it in full rather than them incurring other expenses?"
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