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    "content": "Of course, we have looked at that issue. Yes, it makes a lot of sense that the chair of a departmental committee or whatever the committee is has had interaction with stakeholders, so very early in Second Reading he is able to inform the House and the country: That we have held so many meetings; in fact, Hon. John Mbadi appeared and he said this. We have said we want committee chairs to tell the country and the House who it is that you have interacted with. Do not just tell us some people who are singing on the streets appeared. Tell us who they are. Did they introduce themselves? What did they say? Did you agree with what they said? If you did not agree with them, what are the reasons? So that the country also knows that, yes, you are serious. I know in many of the committees you interact with quite serious stakeholders. If you are talking about roads boards, most likely you have interacted with people in the construction industry, the National Construction Authority (NCA) and all manner of stakeholders; maybe university lecturers in the engineering departments. Tell us that they appeared. Professor so and so appeared and this is what he had to say about this Bill or on this Bill and we agreed with him or we did not agree with him for the following reasons. Let them also know that, yes, when they appear before the committees it is serious business. We want the committees to give the House that information because it is important. Let people who appear before committees also know that they are appreciated. Whether you agree with them or you do not agree with them, it is good to acknowledge that they actually appeared before you. Committee chairs will be given not less than 30 minutes. So you will have sufficient time. And where need be, if committee chairs feel that the kind of report that they have is one that will require more than 30 minutes, just approach the Speaker and indicate how much time beyond the 30 minutes you might require. The Member for Ugunja, who I can see is communicating with the outside world, when I see you bending, I know you are... I was wondering where you had disappeared to but I know you were communicating to the outside world. When the Chair of the Public Accounts The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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