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    "id": 775626,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Losiakou",
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        "legal_name": "Losiakou David Pkosing",
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    "content": "amorphous. What do we mean by “consultation”? Is it about writing a letter and waiting for a reply? How long are you supposed to wait? Is it about making a phone call, and who will own up? Even if you wrote a letter to consult, must the reply be positive or negative? If we go that way, two things will happen. There will be delays in implementation of projects. What would you be waiting for? An opinion? What if you waited forever? We felt it is a dangerous way of doing things, particularly within the road sector. In the infrastructure sector, we would want work to be done quickly. Kenyans do not want to know who is talking to who. They want to see a road. Members of the public do not want to know who is writing to who, at what time and in which language. We are of the view that such an approach will delay projects or result in micro-management of county affairs by the national Government and vice-versa. This aspect will be addressed properly under public participation as provided for in the Constitution. We listened to members of the public and I will give you our general observations later on. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, we also received a presentation from KeNHA. We picked the critical issues that came from them. They want the framework of Public Private Partnership (PPP) to be well anchored in law. That goes together with the tolling infrastructure. This area involves capital investment. If we are to continue with reliance on the Exchequer, we will not get the resources required to build the more than 10,000 kilometres of roads that the Jubilee administration has promised Kenyans. So far, we have done 9,000 kilometres. Even if we did the 10,000 kilometres, this country requires more roads. Our network is now more than 180,000 kilometres going forward. We are talking of 10,000 kilometres out of 180,000-kilometre road network. When will we reach the 180,000 kilometres target? We require resources. If we are to depend on the Exchequer, we will have a problem. We will wait for roads forever. We do not want to go that way. The KeNHA, in their wisdom, propose that we have the PPP and tolling issues entrenched in this Bill. They also suggest that their proposed share of 35 per cent of the Road Maintenance Levy Fund that has been proposed be enhanced to 40 per cent. I want to clarify something about the governors’ presentation. There is something crucial this House must understand. After they made their presentation, and upon receiving our reply, they went back. We told them that if they wanted to scrap KeRRA and KURA, it is not their problem. Suppose they are given their roads, as counties? The roads that will remain with the national Government, it can be decided upon which agency should be responsible for their maintenance. We gave them an example. We asked them: “If somebody wants to name his/her children KeNHA and KeRRA, how does that affect you?” Those roads are already under the national Government and they can be named in whichever way."
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