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    "content": "The transaction was aboveboard. No one denies that Kshs19.95 million worth of shares was transferred, but anybody we tried to check, including the employees of Gina Din Communications numbering about 12, did not indicate or even give a clue that they were acting on instructions of the Minister for Co-operative Development and Marketing, who is, himself, a small shareholder in Gina Din SACCO; it was a normal transaction. That business transaction of Class A shares is not open to every Tom, Dick and Harry. It is open only to members of Saccos within themselves and within that particular family. We went further because we were very eager to pin down the Minister for Co- operative Development and Marketing, following such a huge allegation. We found out that even within the memoranda and files we had in our possession, there was no caveat in the transfer of shares involving Gina Din or any complaints filed with any authority on the matters to do with the transfers of those shares between Gina Din and Harambee SACCO. As regards the weekly payment of Kshs200,00 nothing could have been easier than to have just one cheque, which shows that, indeed, the Minister for Co-operative Development and Marketing actually enjoyed such big honoraria of Kshs200,000 per week from this co-operative. Subsequently, we found this as totally and grossly malicious; I believe the police would be interested to go and check the source of that, and take serious action because we have to respect laws both ways. There were allegations against the Director, CID, the Director KACC, the Attorney-General, the auditors and the Ministry of Co-operative Development and Marketing individually and collectively. All these allegations sounded too sweet to be true. They are 31 in number and I read them out last time. They are frightening. They are awesome. The Director of CID appeared before us for three days. We went over and over the matter. The Attorney-General came and spent two days with us. We went through and scrutinized every document that we could find. We could not find anything questionable against the Director KACC, the Director, CID Mr. Muhoro, the auditors of this Sacco and the Attorney-General, but the blame game continues. This can end if KACC can be empowered to do a forensic audit; it can construct anything that is bankable, which can be utilized in a criminal case or civil case, or which can sustain such a case so that this matter ends. It looks like a big cancer in Harambee Sacco. It has to come to an end. I do concur with one hon. Member who told me: “Good or bad, sometimes matters have to come to an end”. We must stop this and start our lives. We must stop all these hassles of going round and round. I know that the Ministry of Finance is very busy. I know they like giving money, and they have given a lot of money. They did give a lot of money this financial year. Just to remind hon. Members in case they have forgotten, they gave them Kshs21 billion for irrigation. All we are asking is a paltry amount of money to be able to have SASRA operate; a small amount of money that can help us safeguard the interest of the SACCO members and control the Kshs200 billion. This Kshs200 billion is a lot of money and you cannot just run it - like I have said before - like a kiosk. Harambee SACCO has been demonized to an extent that there were reports in the newspapers that there was a run-down. Luckily, it is solid. We saw it and we said that, had this to happen, they would still have a take home of Kshs3.5 billion but"
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