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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I should have said; “point of information”. Hon. Senators, including Sen. Mugo, the point is that by the time we do the Division of Revenue Bill, the first consideration will be public debt. My dear Senators, at some point, even if we pass the County Revenue Allocation, there will be no money because half of it will go to debt. About 66 per cent of Kenyan debt is to China. I call it the road to Shanghai. It is a problem. If we do not talk about it, nobody will talk about it. That has been said and the Committee is here. I want the Senate Majority Leader to listen to this. Under the PFM Act, Section 25(7), the recommendations on this BPS are supposed to be the recommendations of Parliament. In the last Session, all our recommendations were ignored. Allow me to suggest the following: (1) The recommendations that go to the national Treasury from Parliament must include the recommendations of this Committee. If not, we call for a mediation. That is how decisions of Parliament are supposed to go to Treasury. Otherwise, they will continue ignoring us. (2) Possibly amend the Standing Orders. Hon. Senators, these Senators did a good job, except one chairperson who did not appear in terms of analysing the BPS. However, none of them interrogated the respective departments of national Government with regard to matters concerning counties. What Sen. (Prof.) Kamar talked about are just observations that they extracted from the report. Can we amend the Standing Orders so that we summon the concerned persons? Mr. Speaker, Sir, please, give me two more minutes."
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