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    "content": "of the Petitions you cannot get people to support it even those who do not understand what the subject matter might be. So, we need to have clarity that the people coming to defend and support the Bill understand exactly what is going on and they can do that very well. Madam Temporary Speaker, at Part V, Clause 24, we have the Establishment of the Commission. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., that is a part where as we go into public participation and into Committee, some sort of adjustment has to be done and clear role allocation given, specifically in terms of the responsibilities; whether it is to the existing Commission and then definite deliverables that would be expected from this process. If we drive this process from the Senate and not just from a committee perspective but as a whole Senate process, it will be critical, almost like the way we handle the transfer of functions. When we were doing the transfer of functions, we actually stopped the proceedings of the House and we all went to a seminar in Mombasa County and mobilized everybody so that we could deliberate on this. This might be one of those Bills where we might want to build synergy so that we can all get together and move to address it in a specific, loud and clear way for everybody to see. On page 117; Inquiry and Report of the Commission; A Commission established in accordance with Section 24 shall within 90 days of receipt of the Petition, consider the Petition and undertake any necessary inquiry into the issues raised into the Petition. This again is good public participation. They will also invite the members of the public, the affected county government and any other interested parties to present their views and give the residents of the affected counties an opportunity to give their views on the Petition. This is also key and important so that everybody is reading from the same page. Also, the leadership of the counties would need to be assured that they are there. This is because sometimes the people who come are the participants, whereas the community and the leaders do not buy into what these people are saying. Therefore, it leaves it as something that is not bottom-up driven but top-bottom driven which creates a problem. In general, looking at the First Schedule and the 47 counties, it would be nice to know where Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. got all this information that is helpful and important. I suggest you publicize this, go out with it and run with it very fast. Madam Temporary Speaker, there is the aspect of what happens within the counties as well. As a result of these, counties will then have the confidence and would know what to do and what to is expected of them. This directly connects with what Sen. Wetangula was talking about; which is the unfortunate situation where development is not happening within the counties. However, if people in the counties feel that the boundaries are clear and are happy with what is going on, that should also create a pressure point for them to push into that. We looked through this Bill but I did not see whether it directly suggests the creation of an Authority. I do not want this Bill to hit a snag like the other Bills referred to as ‘Money Bills.’ I would want to get assurance that this Bill has already gone through the Speakers of the two Houses. Also, the provisions of Article 110 (3) have been adhered to so that we have this Bill firmly entrenched; that it originates from the Senate and will be moving The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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