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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mulu",
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        "legal_name": "Benson Makali Mulu",
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    "content": "grow to that level, then your revenue generation falls short of expectations. When it falls short of expectation, you have no choice, but to borrow. So, what happens? When you borrow, you make the situation worse than it is. There are models you can use to forecast proper economic growth. Let those models be used so that even when you do not get it right because it is a forecast, you are not very far from the target. That will help us as we budget forward. On the issue of the big four agenda, I like the debate about it. I like it. I want to tell the Jubilee Government that all Kenyans are behind them in this regard. Why? The agenda is not coming from the moon. It is coming from the Vision 2030. It is derived from there because that is the long-term economic document. All Kenyans said that they wanted it and we support it. As I speak, the big four agenda idea is good, but if you want to achieve it, the “how” and the “when” questions must be answered. Currently, they are not answered. That is why we are saying that we need a framework through which we will be able to say how we will achieve this and when. That is the Monitoring and Evaluation (M&E) component. If the “how” and the “when” questions are not answered, you can as well dream about the big four. It will be a big dream at the end of the day. If you focus on the “how” and the “when” questions, it will be realised and Kenyans will benefit. My humble plea to our Jubilee counterparts, and to the Executive, is for us to come up with a strategy and an implementation framework which will answer the questions of “when” and “how”. We will then be home and dry in terms of achieving the big four agenda. The other thing is the issue of programmes. When people say they want to see a list of programmes and projects, it is not because we have bad intentions. It is for proper monitoring and proper status review of these programmes so that we know how to allocate resources efficiently and effectively. Such a list becomes mandatory in that sense. So, you have no choice. It is either you provide the list or you continue allocating resources without the right framework and you fail to move far. I have another issue on the big four agenda. My Chairman puts it rightly and correctly that part of the big four agenda will be implemented by the county governments and the national Government. In a situation where you have some county governments being administered by the minority side and others being administered by the majority side, you do not expect it to be a smooth flow if you have no framework in terms of how to engage. The Executive needs, at this early stage before we go far, to come up with a mechanism of engaging the county governments, so that the health and the agriculture components are implemented. If you do not do that, it is another pipe dream. I do not think Kenyans want to see a dream. They want to see reality because they want to improve their lives. The health component is very pertinent to this country. It is central to our people, both those who are in the Opposition and those who are in the Government. Kenyans care about service delivery. Once they elected us, what they want is service delivery, and that is what we should do. The other point is the issue of Semi Autonomous Government Agencies (SAGAs). These agencies take a lot of money from the Exchequer. As a House, this is an area we have left some black spot. We hardly care about what happens to the money that goes there. Time has come, and I will support my Chairman on this, that we got the detailed budgets from the SAGAs, so that we can track what they are doing. Are Kenyans getting value for money? If they are not getting value for money, the parastatal reforms can come on board where we do away with some of them and restructure others so that the few that we leave can deliver to Kenyans. At the end of the day, they are supposed to be the investment channels. However, most of them are not investing. They The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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