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    "content": "We also have issues between crop farmers and pastoralists. The land use is different. Some are using the land for crop farming and others for pastoral purposes. If these issues are not resolved, then it is also a source of conflict. Looking back at the Bill, I have a concern with Clause 17; the winding up of the mediation committee. I heard Sen. Murkomen say that we must have a standby or maybe a permanent body that will deal with these disputes. This is because if we do not have institutional memory, whereby you just handover and take off, then it means things will be stuck. So, I am requesting Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. who is the sponsor of this Bill that we must have mechanisms in place so that once the Committee has finalised its report and handed over, there should be a take-over mechanism. The other concern that I wanted to raise is on Clause 18 (2) where you are talking of “at least 15 per cent of the registered voters.” We need to increase that threshold because if we leave it at 15 per cent, every Tom, Dick and Harry will run up with a petition to the Senate or the National Assembly. So, can we increase the threshold from 15 per cent? Another concern is that we should have mechanisms whereby before a decision on a boundary dispute is taken; we, first, need to build the capacity of those affected counties. Let people know that there are boundary disputes and that demarcation is going to take place. If we do not do that, then it is going to be very difficult for the people who are affected within those counties that the boundaries are going to be amended. Finally, I would like to say that the Truth, Justice and Reconciliation Commission (TJRC) came up with a lot of information on historical injustices on land disputes and land boundary issues. I would request Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to look at the TJRC Report and pick a few issues that can enrich this Bill before we pass it. I know there are going to be issues between the Senate and the National Assembly once we pass this Bill. My brother, you need to prepare yourself so that it is not taken by the National Assembly. We have a notion that a petition submitted to the National Assembly and the Senate brings conflicts between the two Houses. Can we have one of the Houses; either the Senate or the National Assembly to deal with the issues of boundary disputes? If that does not happen, then we will still have the same issues coming up, whether it is a money Bill, a county issue or a national Government issue. Article188 talks about Parliament. However, we need to do something because issues of boundaries affect counties. So, it should be the Senate that should deal with the boundary disputes."
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