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    "content": "limiting access to information. However, I do not believe that it is necessary to cap information access. We must do these things in the open. As I have said, in two counties they left a pending bill of over Kshs2.5 million for endless meetings that do not make sense. Therefore, that cap on the access to information must be clear, so that by the time the committee is handing over to the new governor, there is a clear guideline. This will guard against being ambushed with information or information coming in reverse. There is something that is happening in counties. The bills that were incurred before the election are being keyed into the Integrated Financial Management Information System (IFMIS). The governors walk into the office and find payments being done. They are told: “They had been keyed in to go to the IFMS. However, there was a delay and, therefore, it did not go through.” So, some of these intricate public finance management issues are important in this Bill besides what I mentioned before, so that we do not have these problems. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, lastly, this is one of the Bills that the Senate must see through, because it is going to protect counties. I suspect that some of my colleagues here will end up in the counties and would not want to find a shell. If we do not check we will actually find a shell. It is actually scary to imagine that governors will incur debts. Also, the County Executive Committee (CEC) Members will key into the IFMIS bills way after the elections because we have no legal framework. We do not want the national Government to issue circulars to counties because that is the work of the Senate. We must protect our space, otherwise, these circulars will substitute the Senate and at one time we will become irrelevant. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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