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    "id": 78519,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Raila",
    "speaker_title": "The Prime Minister",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 195,
        "legal_name": "Raila Amolo Odinga",
        "slug": "raila-odinga"
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not contradicting myself. At the time when I asked Ministers to step aside, some investigations had been carried out. In the case of Mr. Samoei there was a PricewaterhouseCoopers Report, which had been published and which, therefore, said that they needed more investigations to be carried out by KACC. So, that was a very different situation I was talking about. What I am saying today is that somebody will wake up in the morning and just say so and so has been involved in corruption and wave some document. I am saying that, that is not sufficient proof to warrant somebody to step aside. Mr. Speaker, Sir, sometimes this idea of stepping aside has been pushed too far, to the level of vindictiveness. For example, I want to highlight the question of the cemetery land, which has been raised here. Hon. Members will remember that the KACC has already investigated it. People are already in court. A Permanent Secretary is in court, a mayor is in court. Many people are in court. So, why are we again asking other people to step aside when investigations have already been completed and people are already being prosecuted? All that I am saying is that we should not run a country on the basis of vindictiveness, where somebody will just wake up in the morning and say so and so has been involved in corruption; he has been mentioned adversely; let him step aside for investigations to be carried out. No, that is not how to do it. That is not how to run a civilized State. We have institutions which have been charged with investigations. We have got the KACC; we have the Inspectorate of State Corporations; we have Internal Audit Office in the Treasury and we have the Efficiency Monitoring Unit within the Government. So, assumptions should never be made that the Government does not have the capacity to carry out investigations. It has the capacity and we have, therefore, a supervisory capacity to supervise the Executive. What I am trying to say is that we will not sit down and watch when our resources are being misused by members of the Executive. I want it to be understood that in this regard, our role is complementary to that of Parliament. This is what I wanted to state, so that we are very clear about it from the very beginning. Mr. Speaker, Sir---"
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