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    "id": 789328,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Nyikal",
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        "legal_name": "James Nyikal",
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    "content": "If a county government wants to get into an international arrangement, the bureaucratic process is long. That delays what county governments can do. This is a good way forward. We have to look at other areas, but not just in public private partnerships. We have to look at other laws and recognise that as much as the national Government gives guidelines, counties must be recognised and given the leeway to link with the national Government but be free to make their decisions. Some Members fear that when you give this freedom, you give free hand to corruption. Structures do not create corruption. It is people who engage in corruption. We cannot be afraid of creating free structures that will liberate our systems to serve our people. We need to look at corruption and deal with it. Like I had said before, you cannot say that you will stop keeping chicken because there are chicken thieves in the village. You deal with the chicken thieves but keep the chicken. That is something we should not fear."
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