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    "content": "Second, I was listening to the history of the late hon. Matiba on Television and this is a gentleman who most likely we do not understand. Third, it is a mistake if we are going to honour people when they die. I saw this gentleman seated next to me – the Senate Minority Leader – on Television yesterday amongst the people who were up in pick-ups fighting for freedom. Instead of waiting for his death like the late hon. Matiba, Sen. Orengo should be recognized for his fight for democracy. We might not know, but he was tortured and one of his fingers cannot fold. We do not recognize him and he is here. Therefore, as we recognize the people who have departed, it would be nice to start by recognizing the people who are here with us. There were cases that were filed during the multi-party era, I was then an intern, when Sen. Orengo was fighting together with the former President Kibaki and hon. Matiba. He is still here and he fights for democracy. However, this country has a short memory because most people who fought for Independence or the second liberation will also die poor. In fact, Sen. Orengo was telling me that it is possible that the debtors of the estate of the late hon. Matiba are waiting for the Kshs945 million. The minute it is paid, they will most likely go and attach whatever property that is left of the estate. It is possible because of the problems this gentleman had, his estate has debts. So, it is not enough to pay the Kshs945 million. What do we do with the people who tortured Kenyans? What do we do with the people who are known and incarcerated Kenyans? Is an apology enough? Mr. Speaker, Sir, the case of the late hon. Tom Mboya is pending; the case of the late hon. (Dr.) Robert Ouka is pending; the case of the late hon. Pio Gama Pinto is pending; and the case of Chris Musando is also pending. Hon. Paul Ngei died on a wheelchair, poor beyond belief. He was bankrupt. In fact, the late hon. Matiba is lucky because he had businesses otherwise, he would have died like hon. Paul Ngei in a wheelchair only for my father to rescue him from a bankruptcy case. The late Mr. Kisao Munyao who was the only Kenyan who had the audacity to go up Mt. Kenya and hoist our flag on independence day, we had to buy a piece of land for him so as to bury him. He died a pauper while living in Bahati Estate. This is a shameful country. When you think about people like hon. Charles Rubia who were living somewhere in Eastlands, we do not do enough; we forget easily. The people who were fighting with him–except for Sen. Orengo–are now billionaires. They soon forget the people they fought these fights with. Therefore, as we condole with the family of the late hon. Matiba, the question of truth, justice and reconciliation needs to be factored not only to leaders, but to the Wagalla Massacre and massacres all over the country. It should also include tribal clashes that began in 1992 because of the clamor for multi-party democracy. Also, the stealing of elections that begun in 1992 and the bungled elections by the Electoral Commission of Kenya (ECK) and Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) and the shenanigans going on even today. Unless we address them, we are paying lip service to the work that the late hon. Matiba did for this nation. Thank you."
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