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    "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I must congratulate the Senator for Makueni because if we thought we did not have work, there is a lot of work here being created. There could be circumstances where we could actually use a recommendation as an executing mechanism for suspension even without consideration of what has turned out in the enquiry of the report. However, under this proposed legislation it will be part of our duty to deal with the report. It says quite clearly that the report should go before a committee, again, to try and deal with this matter in detail. It may be a cancerous problem which can even create a bigger problem, yet in those circumstances at that particular point in time, it may not lead to a suspension. However, it is a problem which should be dealt with. This is extremely important and I thank the Senator for seeing it fit that such recommendation should not just hang in the air; that after they are made they are just found somewhere in some archive for someone to probably write a thesis later, without the Senate having an input. Secondly, I invite Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to continue doing this - he is probably the best person in this Senate that could do it for us - because he has got this sense of detail and a lot of time for this kind of thing. We make a lot of laws in the Senate and in Parliament generally and yet, when it comes to implementation, it becomes extremely difficult. When we were to deal with the problem of impeachment in the very first place we were lost. We had to go through a workshop to find out what happens everywhere, although the law was there. This happens in many situations. I know that Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. would know this better. A lot of times, what lawyers ask is: When you create a law you must find out how to deal with circumstances where that law does not work. So, you are not just making general provisions. A law may give somebody power, but he does not know how to exercise it. Even making appointments can be very difficult if you are not told how to go through that appointment. This process, which I think borrows a little bit from what happens in impeachment proceedings once they come before this House, is to be commended. It is good for a report to go before a Committee of the House because you do not know how big the report will be. Not every Member of the Senate may probably have the time and the sense of detail to deal with a report like that. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. has recommended that the matter would be submitted to a committee of the Senate which will be time bound. They will not have all the time that they wish. This is found in terms of termination or suspension by the Senate and in terms of a report being delivered to the Senate. The beginning point is that this Bill is telling us what is to be submitted to the Senate. Even that was not clear too. What does the President submit to the Senate? I see here, under the new subsection (8) (a), that what would be submitted to the Speaker of the Senate is the report and recommendations of the commission. This is because, essentially, you may find yourself in a situation where the President may submit a one-page report. Will that be good enough? It is made clear in this Bill that we will have the report and the recommendations of the commission. The second, and even more important, is the petition for the suspension. It is obvious that one should get a petition for the suspension of a county, but it cannot be taken for granted if the law is not clear on this. Once those reports are submitted to the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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