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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Lessonet",
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        "legal_name": "Moses Lessonet",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, we also want to speak to other committees. When you look at the Departmental Committee on Lands, they have already okayed that payment. They have already brought it into the budget. While interrogating the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.15 of 2018), the Departmental Committee on Lands indicates that it is good to pay. We also want the Departmental Committee on Health to go further and look at a payment which, although the Budget Office has approved in the Supplementary Budget, we want further investigations on purported acquisition of 37 scanners for 37 hospitals in Kenya where provisions of Article 223 of the Constitution have been used. We also do not see the urgency for the use of that Article 223. While we have used Article 223 to make a payment of Kshs1.7 billion to some Chinese company, it is possible the scanners will not have arrived in Kenya by the end of this year. I say that because when you look at history, we still have several containers stuck in Mombasa for so many years. We do not know when the containers that were paid for will arrive or whether Article 223 was used. As I finish, we also want to let the National Treasury know that there is a big component of the budget which does not come to this House. It only comes to this House when it is a mandatory payment. If we are doing a project using loans or donor money, we do not sit in this House. We only sit at the tail end when it is payment of that loan or payment of interest in respect of that loan. During the process of agreeing that the project needs to be done, we are not involved. That is why the BAC will be proposing amendments to the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act to require that donor funded projects, projects which are funded through loans and all the ones we see in newspapers designed as ‘financed and built by…” need to come to this House beforehand so that we can exercise our mandate in budget making. With those remarks, I beg to second the Bill. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker."
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