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    "id": 799295,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Kabaka",
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        "legal_name": "Boniface Mutinda Kabaka",
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    "content": "I am sorry if I have offended my brother Sen. Poghisio. I withdraw and apologise to that extent but not what I said about the governors. Let me say two things then I will sit down. I am a Member of the Committee on Finance and Budget and I think the Ward Development Fund has sent shivers down the spine of the governors because according to them, if funds are released to wards, MCAs will duplicate the duties but that is not the point. The point is that the essence of devolution, like everyone has said here, is that resources should devolve down to “Wanjiku” or “Otieno” for that matter. We do not see any conflict whatsoever. Like Members of the Committee on Delegated Legislation have said, we also visited similar areas. One thing MCAs asked is our support and we told them to watch this space. The other thing is that the role of MCAs is primary because we do a complementary role. Those are the people who interact with wananchi at the village levels but they have a challenge of resources. One of the areas we need to assist them in, and more so the committee which I am a Member, is the issue of car grants. MCAs need to be mobile so that they can interact with wananchi at the lowest level. My last point is that we appreciate that a lot of donor monies or funding is channeled to the counties through the executives for capacity building. However, that money should stop being channeled to them and instead to the Senate, so that we do programmes which incorporate the county assemblies for capacity building on oversight matters. I support the Motion for Adjournment. Asante sana."
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