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"content": "controls the entire system. They are there in the Judiciary, here in Parliament, in State House, they are everywhere Before we kill them, not literally killing them by using weapons but killing them in order to deny them the tools with which they have been working to do this, then we will talk and talk, and the year, 2022, another President will come and say, my first agenda is to deal with corruption. How many times did President Moi talk about ufisadi? We used to sing every song. In fact, if you think about most of those songs about President Moi, they were about ufisadi; tumemaliza ufisadi. Now, 15 years after President Moi, the animal is still here with us. So, I would plead with the leadership in this country to start the conversation amongst ourselves. Begin with the issues of corruption amongst the leaders themselves; the senior leaders. In fact, in this whole thing, even these Cabinet Secretaries, some of them are very junior people in this entire arrangement. There are bigger forces dealing with this. There are forces who actually even in the electoral process, they participate behind the scenes. They are the ones who want to determine who sits in State House yet we are here talking about corruption. As we are talking about corruption, they are watching us and wondering how small we are in the entire operations. Let them talk, they will say that but I think and I am convinced with what the leaders did today and the measures that are being taken. If we truly believe in it, it should continue but let it not continue as a process where we are looking out there without having a conversation amongst ourselves about the question of corruption. I think this is where it begins. Leaders in this country should begin declaring their wealth. If you want to be a Senator or President, the first thing you do is to declare your wealth. Not only the wealth that you have but a little history of how you got that wealth because if you ask President Carter about his peanut farm, you can get a history of how that business came about or even the Kennedys, one of the richest families. You would know over the years, and you can look at their tax returns. Finally, we will not succeed unless we learn how to make Kenya a one indivisible nation. Even by appointment already, there is no meritocracy. When we are doing vetting, and that is why I think vetting should come to the Senate. Just the other day, the National Assembly was doing this vetting, if we do not do them in a bipartisan manner and trying to get the best like the Constitution is saying, we will end with people in the public service, who are just embarrassing us; and we have appointed some of them as leaders of the investigative agencies. I am not talking about the ones who are there but in the past we have had others. So, let us abide by the constitutional aspirations. My believe is that we do not necessarily need new laws but we need, as leaders, to mean what we say and when we say it, it should be seen to be done. It starts with the person with whom the executive authority of the state rests or is vested. That is in the Office of the President and the leaders in all the arms of Government. With those remarks, I support and hope that this message goes out there; that we are in a new era of fighting against corruption but let us have a conversation amongst ourselves. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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