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    "id": 800895,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ng’ongo",
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        "id": 110,
        "legal_name": "John Mbadi Ng'ong'o",
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    "content": "expected that this vetting could take place without asking those officers to step aside. Having told them to step aside, I hope the process will be fast-tracked so that only those Kenyans and officers who have been corrupt are dealt with. I also wanted to talk about Kenyans in general. Even as we whine, complain, ask the President and other senior officers to act and call for people to step aside, Kenyans are also to blame because they glorify theft. Kenyans roll out red carpets for thieves. If you go to a church function or fundraiser, thieves walk into those functions with loads of money, are given preferential treatment and those Kenyans who work so hard are seen to be lazy people. Kenyans even go ahead to elect thieves. You find that when you want to run for a seat, people will come to ask you: Mbadi, you want to run for the Office of the Governor of Homa Bay County, do you have money? You look at this person and ask yourself what money you are expected to have to run for the office of governor of a county. Which money do you want? In fact, I tell people that we get what we deserve as a country. We do not even appreciate the roles of the various positions that are in the Constitution. Members of Parliament have a responsibility. They are supposed to legislate, oversee and represent people. You elect someone because he attends funerals or gives people unga, then you expect them to deliver. Once you elect “ unga ”, expect to receive “ unga ”. You cannot expect a county to be run, garbage to be collected and roads to be improved by someone whose quality is to give out unga . Kenyans must also ask themselves fundamental questions. What role do we play in promoting graft? Why do we start glorifying people who have acquired wealth through dubious ways? There is now no shame. Look around the counties. You find someone who is working in a finance department earning Kshs94,000 as gross salary. In three years, this person is able to put up a hotel worth Kshs100 million and they do not even have any shame. They do it in front of everyone to see. They compete. I do not know who told these people that the best business is putting up a hotel. Every one of them is competing to put up a hotel. Every one of them is competing to buy a four-wheel drive vehicle. You find a very junior officer in the county owing three four-wheel drive vehicles. He drives around with a leading car, a chase car and another one. This is someone whose salary is below Kshs100,000. You do not even need to look anywhere. That is a clear case of someone who is a thief and should be arrested and charged. I have also mentioned this to the Office of the Auditor General when he appeared in the Budget and Appropriations Committee seeking more funds to give his office capacity. The Office of the Auditor General has done very well. It has also failed. There are many officers who work in the Office of the Auditor General who have become very corrupt. You find that they go to the counties, are bribed, go back home and corruption continues. Some of the auditors from the Office of the Auditor-General who audit counties do not even spend a day there. I expect all the funds from the Consolidated Fund, whether it is money going to ministries, parastatals, counties or to constituencies through the NG-CDF or the Affirmative Action Fund, must be audited properly. The people who are embezzling public funds at whatever level should be arrested and dealt with because they are making people in this country suffer. They are making us suffer. I can see that many people are coming up with very crazy suggestions like we should pass death penalty upon corrupt people. There is no need for that. If we deal with the current legal framework, we do not need the death penalty or life sentence. We need to implement the law as it is."
}