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    "id": 801049,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mule",
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        "legal_name": "Stephen Mutinda Mule",
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    "content": "question is very simple: These people have interfered with money meant for the future of this country. Among ourselves as Members of the House, we have resolved and put it very clear that we are going to relook at the laws which can deal with corruption precisely. I agree with Hon. Savula that we also need to differentiate who does what, at what level and what capacity they need. Corruption in this country is like cancer. For you to deal with cancer precisely, you either diagnose it at stage one or diagnose it at stage four and the patient dies when you are on treatment. We must relook at all the laws dealing with corruption in this country to make sure that we detect corruption at stage one. The President has set the pace by sending officers and the accounting officers on a suspended leave. But, I am also perturbed. How do you evaluate the wealth and do a lifestyle audit of all those staff within a month and come up with a concrete result for this country? I want to propose to the President that, if he is listening to us from the Chamber, we cannot fight corruption in a month. We need to dedicate ourselves to fighting corruption 24/7, 365 days in a year for six years so that we can root out the entire mess. This House also needs to look at the procurement law in such a way that contracts are scrutinised and procured at different levels. We procure at the constituency level for the NG-CDF and I can assure you it is very difficult to manipulate that little money. But, if we allow procurement officers to procure a pen and at the same time a chopper, they will be tempted. He is not bothered when he is procuring a pen because it is Kshs10. There is nothing to steal from there. But, when he is procuring a chopper, he is only looking at the final figure and he will be tempted. We need to have a serious agency to procure on behalf of the Government and other agencies and we remove procurement from the ministries. The moment we have it in the ministries, that is where the cartels are formed. It is better if you have a clear agency to do procurement today. I will beg for one minute to explain this because I think we must come up with an injection to deal with this cancer. If we have a national procurement agency where ministries will send their requests for procurement and the Government… (Off-record)"
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