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    "id": 801519,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I want to thank the Senators who have contributed to this Bill. I have heard the sentiments of Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki and others. They have raised very pertinent issues. Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri has raised the question of disposal of the medical equipment. Sen. Murkomen has asked about the water towers. Sen. M. Kajwang’ spoke about fisheries and agriculture. I would like to ask the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries, Sen. Ndwiga; the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Health, Sen. (Dr.) Mbito; the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources, Sen. Mwangi; - Sen. Mwangi is my friend and I appeared before him in 2001 when he was the Chairman of Public Accounts Committee (PAC) and he really harassed me - to seize the opportunity and interrogate these conditional grants to ascertain whether they are spent well. We have had an opportunity of interrogating these conditional grants. I want to say that Makueni County is receiving a lot of support on health because there is a good picture that we have created. So, it is an opportunity for the Senate to make sure that these monies are used well. This is because, out there, they want to support these aspects of devolution. All these conditional grants are Schedule 4 functions. I am requesting, through the Senate Majority Leader, whether we can find a method of interrogating these conditional grants so that we get a lot more from donors who are ready to support some aspects of devolution. This is because they will not only give funding, but also build the capacity. Hon. Senators, what we are lacking is not equipment, but it is the capacity. I hope the Cuban doctors are not only bringing good tidings, but they are also bringing capacity to Kenyans. We need them to train our people so that they can do what other people are doing in other nations. When I speak to this, I can see Sen. Mugo is nodding in appreciation of the good comments I am making. With those few remarks, I beg to reply."
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