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    "id": 804091,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ichung’wah",
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        "legal_name": "Anthony Kimani Ichung'Wah",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker. To some extent, I tend to agree with Hon. Maoka Maore, we must safeguard the mandate of this House in terms of being a House that oversees ministries, departments and agencies of the Government. I would really want Hon. Maoka Maore to tell this House when he brought the matter of Goldenberg and Anglo Leasing whether those matters were audit questions before this House. Number two, this House acts to supplement the work of other investigative agencies. I will give you a case example in the 11th Parliament and I say this with a lot of authority because I was the Vice-Chair of PIC. The EACC and DCI were actively investigating the loss of about Kshs400 million under the National Youth Enterprise Fund. It was not until PIC, in record three weeks, summoned witnesses in Room 7 and we were able to trace who stole the money, and what assets were bought. And it was on the basis of our report that was adopted in this House that the DCI and the DPP acted, arrested people and charged them in court. Even His Excellency the President relieved the then chair of that board of his duties on the basis of the report that we adopted in this House. Therefore, if we muzzle ourselves as a House—that we have to wait until the Auditor- General submits a report to this House for us to act—indeed we will just be shooting ourselves in the foot on our role to oversee ourselves. Lastly, in our own report, the Budget and Appropriations Committee Report, which we adopted last week, we have recommended that this House, especially the departmental committees, not just the two oversight committees, that if we are to stem the cancer of corruption in this country we must start from following up on how our Budget allocations are implemented. If then we must hold the departmental committee to wait for the Auditor-General’s reports to be able to know that a certain agency or ministry is misusing public funds, to be honest we will just be shooting ourselves in the foot. Therefore, as much as Hon. Maore is agitated here and speaking about what is under active investigations, even the DCI will be investigating the matter. You remember the NYS I was under investigation by the DCI, yet the EACC came in to investigate. This is what is called a multi-agency approach. This National Assembly should be part and parcel of that multi-agency approach to investigating issues. So, we cannot deny this House an opportunity to interrogate monies that we are allocating to those agencies in The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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