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    "id": 810770,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/810770/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kisumu East, Independent",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Shakeel Shabir",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Ahmed Shakeel Shabbir Ahmed",
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    "content": " I shall ignore him for that purpose, on your instructions, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I am suggesting that these three be allowed to exist on their own, at least, for another three to five years. The LAPFUND has a hole of KShs26 billion in unremitted funds, but on the other side, the Government owes counties, municipal and city councils contributions in lieu of rates of over that amount. Of the Kshs26 billion, 70 to 75 per cent is owed by the Nairobi City Council. The governors would like to take over all the assets of the county councils, but none of the liabilities. That is why they have been sponsoring this special Bill, which is a private Member’s Bill, so that they can short circuit and get rid of that liability and throw it in the lap of the national Government. That is not going to happen. And we will not allow it to happen. We would like to have the LAPFUND and the LAPTRUST to consolidate their assets and have a transition of three years for that exercise. The LAPFUND should talk with the Government and claim the contributions in lieu of rates with the help of county governments. The county governments should not ignore or accept the liability that they owe as counties, to the LAPFUND. You cannot say for a moment that the Kisumu County Government or the Nairobi County Government does not have any liability to the LAPFUND because they took over the assets and the liabilities. So, they have liabilities and they must pay."
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