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    "id": 810796,
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    "speaker_name": "Siaya CWR, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Christine Ombaka",
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        "legal_name": "Christine Oduor Ombaka",
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    "content": "those who are transferred from the old system to county governments, especially when they have five years to go. It says very clearly that they are not eligible to join the scheme. Nobody really seems to explain what is going to happen to them even though they are working and they may be having only five years to retire. What happens to them? That is not being addressed and it is making me feel that certain groups of people are being discriminated in this context. I think that needs to be streamlined. If they are not going to be beneficiaries of this new retirement scheme, where do they fall? What happens to them? They have worked. They only have five years or less but where is their story in this particular scheme? There is need to know exactly what the retirement age is. Is it 55? Is that officially stated? Is it 60 or 65 years? I know people who are beyond 60 who are still working and I know other people who are 60 who have retired. I am confused. Where are we in this country? What is the age of retirement? Is it 55, 60 or 65? Where is it written? Where has it been made clear that that is the position whichever the year that might be? Lastly, those whose spouses or relatives have died and have their retirement not claimed, where do you take the retirement money for the deceased if it is not claimed? That needs to be clear because I know that families do not know that they have a right to claim the benefits of their loved ones. There is need to do civic education for families of those who are working to know that once their relatives or loved ones die, they have a right to access the retirement benefits. That money seems to get lost. Nobody claims it because nobody knows they have a right to it. So, can we also have sensitisation and education on this for families to know that they have a right to claim the benefits of their relatives who pass on even before the retirement age? I think that must be the last one I had. I just want to say that I support this Bill because it means well. It is a Bill that gives us social protection and it must be properly managed. In many other areas where we have funds for retirement there is a lot of politics and money is lost and delayed. There is a lot of information and people are not aware of what they deserve. There is also a section here that talks about other funds that might come to the scheme. These might be gifts, donations or some kind of investment that the scheme has made. This is the extra money beyond the contribution that members make. How is it split among members? That is not clear. How are gifts, investments or extras that come to the scheme shared out by the members? That, again, requires explanation which I fail to see here. I try to get it, but I fail to see it. How do you share gifts, investments or extra money that has been acquired by the scheme? With those remarks, I support the Bill."
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