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    "id": 810840,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Nairobi CWR, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Esther Passaris",
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        "legal_name": "Esther Passaris",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I stand to support this Bill but with reservations. When you look at Clause 48(1), it seems like we are not serious about protecting our old. How can we say that if you steal from the fund, you pay a fine of Kshs5 million or serve two years in prison? Let me bring you a case that is currently in court. There is a driver who skipped bail and he has been fined Kshs130,000, which he does not have. Now, he has been thrown into Kamiti Prison for two years and three months. For me, when somebody is entrusted with the funds for the retirement of our citizens, majority of them from various counties, and we say that if they steal from the funds, all they need to do is pay Kshs5 million, we are not serious about dealing with corruption. It should be nothing less than a life sentence. The amounts of money being stolen in this country are huge. In China, people are hanged for theft. People are stealing and squandering public resources and we are saying they should pay Kshs5 million or face two years in prison. Another thing that worries me is that we have so many ex-councillors who are languishing in poverty. If we set up a fund that is going to support the county employees, we have to start by example. We have to find a way to recover the money that county governments or the city councils owed. We have to come up with some kind of compromise. The Government is always creating funds. We have to look at how much was collected, where there is a shortfall and compensate all those who have retired so that we can give credence to having an amalgamated fund that can look after the old. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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