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    "speaker_name": "Buuri, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri",
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        "legal_name": "Mugambi Murwithania Rindikiri",
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    "content": "The other issue that I have a bit of problem with is: Who is the valuer that we are talking about? We have land and building valuers. Of course, there will be land acquisition and there could be an improvement on the land, meaning that we need to have building valuers. So, it needs to come out clearly. This Bill talks about valuers. It is not specific. If we are acquiring areas where there are buildings, obviously we need to have building valuers. When you are acquiring, obviously we need a land valuer. Of course, there is a provision for surveyors. The other aspect that we need to look at is compensation. In as much as I agree it has broadened the areas of compensation, strictly speaking, if I was the owner of the land, I would not like to be compensated by a Government bond because I do not know how it is going to perform. When you give me shares, I do not know how the shares are going to perform in the future. We must look at that critically. We will be dealing with people who do not understand some of this information. With regard to the composition of the tribunal, it is one sided. The members having been picked from the Government, I expected to have a representation from the community or non- partisan persons in the tribunal. Otherwise, the NLC would be more favoured. Given the circumstances under which we are operating, we might end up having a tribunal which is subjected to the influence of the NLC. This is a good legislation and we may wish to think of the proposals if they make sense. I am sure at one point in time they will. I also want to raise the issue of the criteria being used after doing mapping to, say, land values. I do not know what the words ‘land values’ mean. If it is not there, then you resort to stamp, rent and market rates. I totally agree with one Member who talked about the future values of land. I have quite invested in land and it is one of my investment areas. I have acquired pieces of land so that I can sell them in future. This will be very subjective and the Government might oppose it. If I have my land and the Government wants to compulsorily acquire it and I do not want to be paid at the price they are offering, then, I must be given a leeway to determine. You cannot force me to be paid at the market rate which is not universal. Hon. Junet comes from Suna where one acre of land costs Kshs500,000. I come from Buuri, where one acre of land costs Kshs7 million. This is practical. So, when we come to these criteria, they must be very specific to the areas that we are talking about. That is all I have but let me also echo the fact that we are learning bad habits from the old Members of Parliament. Some of them seem to be institutionalised by the Speakers who chair sessions. As new Members, we come here - I have to say this although I do not know the consequences of it - Hon. Junet just appears and because he has a title, he is given 30 minutes to speak. He stays. Somebody else comes in. You basically find that for the whole morning session of eight hours, it is only seven or 10 senior Members who speak. The new Members have no opportunity to express themselves. So, we find ourselves at the Tea Lounge and start doing other businesses there. I have done my own research and it is documented. If we do that, the systems that we have put in the Standing Orders will weaken participation in this House not because the new Members have nothing to say. Belittling the new Members by the old Members is becoming a prominent thing of the day. We plead that the Speaker’s Panel looks at that issue very seriously. I support this Bill. I hope the issues that we have raised will be taken into account. Thank you very much."
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