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    "content": "It means that before you make any decisions, you will have to consult two, three or four wives or six or eight, if you are Akuku Danger. That is bicameralism. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when Mr. Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook had issues, when Cambridge Analytica was accused of data privacy invasion, he was called before the House of Representatives and the next day he appeared before the Senate. The questions he was asked were fairly the same, but you could see a greater level of maturity in the Senate. That is a feature of bicameralism. My Committee has been accused of encroaching on the mandate of the National Assembly. Let me put this to those uninformed persons, who are talking about what we are doing on the issue of Ruaraka. My Committee is investigating the fate of schools that used to be owned by the defunct Nairobi City Council. As the Senate, we know that all the assets of the defunct local authorities were supposed to be transferred either to county governments or the national Government. That is why we put in place the Transition Authority (TA) and the Inter-Governmental Technical Relations Committee (IGTRC). We also put in place the County Assets and Liability Verification Committees (CALVCs). What we are doing is perfectly within the mandate of the Senate. I agree with Sen. Murkomen, who has previously said that, in light of the Supreme Court Advisory No.2 of 2013, virtually everything affects counties. If the National Assembly wants us to draw a line between matters that affect counties or not, then we shall say that a matter that does not affect counties is a matter that counties have no obligation to follow. That would mean that a law that does not affect is one that counties have no obligation to follow. You then ask yourself if the Finance Bill or Act affects counties. Yes, it does because it has tax and revenue raising measures that have to be executed in counties. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to focus more on the way forward, because I do not want to be caught up in the exchange and shady science that Sen. Malalah brought us here about the ratio of one to 10. I propose that we need to re-establish the joint committees. When we revised our Standing Orders, we killed all the joint parliamentary Committees. I appreciate that we have a bicameral system, but joint parliamentary Committees have helped in building some level of understanding of the mandate and roles of the two Houses. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I sit in a joint parliamentary Committee that deals with sports. It is called the Bunge Sports Club, which has Members from across the two Houses. Members of Bunge Sports Club are not the kind of people you will find pouring the kind of diatribe that was on the Floor of the House yesterday. They respect the Senate and appreciate what the Senators do because they interact with them on a regular basis. We had a joint committee on national cohesion. We need to think through that because joint committees will bring that understanding but more fundamentally, we asked The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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