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    "content": "important House to them. This is because of our oversight role, for supporting and defending the Constitution; and for defending devolution. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Speakers of these two Houses are basically from the same side of Government. I, therefore, hope that they can rise to a level where they can look at each other, eyeball to eyeball and silence this matter of one House thinkingthat it is the bigger or better House. The world over, the concept of a Senate is that it is the upper House in all jurisdictions. Therefore, the feeling that you have the chance to undermine the Senate or one House should be removed completely. I, therefore, urge the Speakers and leadership of both Houses to get a chance, from time to time, to show Kenyans that what happened yesterday was a bad move. Unfortunately, Kenyans are so sensitive because they watch these live proceedings.What they hear is not good for us and even the students, who come to listen to all these things, because they begin to wonder. I am, therefore, hoping that the Speakers of the Senate and the National Assembly will put these matters to rest.They should meet every week and sort out these matters as required. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, one of the things that frustrate us is that everybody, including the other House, thinks that the Senate is supposed to do monitoring and evaluation. If that is the case, I would expect that the Speaker and Members of the other House would fight for this House to be able to do the work we are supposed to, but that is not the case. I thank the Majority Leader, who has another task of ensuring that our Speaker, the leadership of this House and himself stand tall and not allow us to be put down. We have not yet gone to the point where we will begin to have exchanges.However, if push comes to shove, we will all begin to act in that manner. I do not know why we or they get away with these things. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if we get a chance, which should be very soon, the leadership of this country should also decide which side they are on. Apparently, the Senate is being mistreated under their watch. It is very clear. We want to be told whether it is only convenient. At a time when it is easy to pass things, the Senate might be seen as a hinderance to some of those compromises. We want to know that the Senate is not for that, and that it is a place which stands to defend counties and devolution. The national Government should be proud of the Senate; it should support it and allow the Senate to get the budget formonitoring and evaluation. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, those who spoke yesterday in the other House will soon grow up and see that you do not talk in that manner.If you do not know, the opportunity to speak in the House is a privilege. Therefore, one should not abuse the privilege of speech in the House, because we want to be mature and sensible in the way we speak about each other. Therefore, I could not answer them directly because, like I said earlier, my age cannot allow that---"
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