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    "speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Nuh",
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        "legal_name": "Junet Sheikh Nuh",
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    "content": "They do not have a standing committee on lands. It is the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) of the Senate that is discussing matters on land. What has PAC got to do with lands? What I am talking about must be addressed for posterity. There are people who are going to serve in these Houses after us. There must be a committee that is formed within both houses to address this matter. State officers are defined in Article 260. A Senator is a State officer. He is a Member of Parliament and a state officer. That means we should form a standing committee in this House to manage the Senate because we are supposed to oversee State officers. Senators are State officers! The role of overseeing State officers and state organs are in this House, not in the Senate. That means we must form a committee that will address and oversee the Senate. That is what the Constitution has given us. I am not saying all this to trivialise anything. I am saying this so that we can have order. Very soon, you will provide accommodation inside this Chamber. People from the Executive are invited to this House left, right and centre. Some of them are almost coming with blankets because they have to finish with the committee of the National Assembly because the Senate is waiting for them at 5 o’clock in the evening. As the Chairman of PSC, you must call this matter to order. Summon the Speaker of the Senate and his team as the Chairman of PSC and sit down with them. It is not a small matter. We can take this participation directly to the public and not through the Senate. They are supposed to participate just like my mother in the village. They will be asked whether the law under consideration is good or bad. That is what the Senate is supposed to do. I am not trying to demean the House; I am trying to tell them where their jurisdiction begins and ends. They have constituted standing committees that have no work to do! For example, they have the standing committee on foreign relations. When are counties travelling? They also have the Chairman of National Security. Which national security are you handling? National security is a function of national Government. There are no askaris. There are only county askaris in the villages. Are you going to summon the inspectorate of the county askaris ? This is a very serious matter. It is not joke. It is a matter that we must address. As Hon. Mbadi puts it, have you seen us summoning governors, or ministers as they are called in funerals, or chief officers or Members of County Assemblies (MCAs)? No! We have left that function to be handled by the Senate. The Senate has been put in place just to protect the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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