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    "id": 815133,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Nuh",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Junet Sheikh Nuh",
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    "content": "in the villages. They are saying they cannot look at our Bills until we pass that money. That is holding us hostage. It is blackmail. Very soon, before a Bill is brought to this House to wind up the Senate, it is better they behave. I am foreseeing a situation where this House will wind up the Senate. We just pass the Bill and send it to the President for assent. Before we go there because we want devolution to work, they need to know where their jurisdiction begins and ends. Let us form a team from this House and their House so that we can agree on the boundaries. We do not want to take our problems to the Judiciary because the Judiciary misinterpreted the law the other time. They said we must sit with the Senate to agree on how to divide national revenue. Monies collected in the counties never come to the national kitty. Why should you sit down with people who are not contributing anything? Money is collected in the markets. Do they come to Nairobi? No. They end up going to their kitty. Now, they want us to sit down so that we can agree on how to share the money collected nationally. That is how the Supreme Court interpreted the law the other day. I am not a lawyer to tell whether a review can be done, Kaluma will tell us. We will not go to the Supreme Court again to decide for us where our boundaries are. We will not go to the Executive to ask them where the boundaries between the Senate and us are. We want some of the Senators and some Members of this House to sit down and draw the boundaries. Otherwise, Parliament will become a laughing stock because you will see Senators calling the same Cabinet Secretaries (CS), the same Permanent Secretaries (PSs), and the same State officers for the same issues that have been canvassed and discussed in the National Assembly. Very soon, you will see them investigating the sugar. They are just waiting for the two committees to finish their work so that they can start their investigations on the sugar consumed six months ago. You will see them calling for those kinds of meetings. With those few remarks, Hon. Speaker, give a ruling on this matter if possible. They may think that you are undermining them, but we have agreed as a House that boundaries must be drawn. Thank you."
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