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    "id": 815150,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Rarieda, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) Otiende Amollo",
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        "legal_name": "Paul Otiende Amollo",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I think this House is moving too fast to keep with the thoughts and interventions, because you have covered three - all of which I had interventions on. So I will not speak to this, because I had wanted to point out, as you properly ruled that, perhaps, under Standing Order Nos.85 and 86, particularly 85, what my brother Hon. Kaluma was raising was actually anticipating debate. But I do agree with him except our solution cannot lie in Section 62 because subsection (1) restricts it to serving members while subsection (6) excludes any office for which there is provision for removal. And there is already provision in the Constitution, so it will not help us. I wanted to suggest that, perhaps, where our solutions will come from is in the Constitution itself, from Article 73. Perhaps, the Committee would consider that. If the matter is of such a fundamental nature, you could invoke your jurisdiction because, as you properly ruled before, a matter of constitutionality, whether before the House or a committee, can be raised at any time. Therefore, the question of constitutionality of that process can actually be used to bring it forth for discussion. I had actually wanted to offer… I do not know whether you have closed the debate. In terms of what the Leader of the Majority Party and Leader of the Minority Party spoke to, which I agree with, what we did not do is to provide for some sort of way forward. We have left it open. I had wanted to indicate that there are certain avenues that the Senate could seek to use in terms of the role of Parliament generally in Article 94, which talks of democratic governance and Article 96 which talks of oversight, but in terms of impeachment of the President. But it is Article 125 and the ruling by the Supreme Court that the Senate has sought to use. I agree with the Members who have said that a proper, narrow interpretation of the Constitution will truly restrict the jurisdiction of the Senate. But how do we move forward. I was going to suggest two ways. The reason we have to do this is because Kenyans are going to be very confused if there is any one matter in which a National Assembly committee comes to one The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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