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    "id": 820049,
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    "speaker_name": "Nambale, ANC",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Sakwa Bunyasi",
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        "legal_name": "John Sakwa Bunyasi",
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    "content": "senior position he is expected to occupy? I thought the committee should have delved into that. If he promised to hire more young graduates, I would be surprised to hear where he is going to get the budget to finance that. How is he going to create space to finance an increased absorption of this target group that we want absorbed? We are in the era of an excessive wage bill. That is what we have been told over the last five years. What are his specific ideas in respect of refining the Civil Service so that he can create room for those young graduates? Otherwise, it is just rhetoric. We know from the word go that nothing like that will happen. Two, on his age, I agree with my colleague Mhe. Lentoimaga that age represents wealth of experience and that is okay. But then, in respect of the retirement requirement within the Civil Service, does that mean that he has now been thrown out? It seems 60 years is no longer the retirement age. Is it a voluntary matter? I may have lost track of that. Is this a special consideration that is being done? That means we expect an Executive Order or some decision to come from the President exempting him from this retirement requirement because he is already 60 years. We have heard comments about him doing something in the counties on excess employment, which is done along clan lines and tribal lines. It is the same at the national level. We are not seeing any aggressive leadership at the national level that will make it clear even to the counties that there is an example to be followed. It is a vice that remains, whether it is at the county or the national level. The employment of the old county council workers is not a decision of the counties. It is a national decision that was made during the transitional period. They were not to fire them. We need clarity at the national level. During vetting like this, these types of policy questions should be clarified sufficiently for the candidate to go back and work on them. I think this is sort of a soft velvet gloved hand that wants to pass the candidate. It seems not to have asked the hard questions. I am constrained to say that on the basis of this, I do not think the vetting went far enough. I hear from people who know him and who seem to be willing to vouch for him. If I were to say ‘yes’ on this, it would purely be on the basis of faith. Vetting must go beyond faith. It must go as far as possible in terms of verification, probing and inquiries. Given what has been done, I am not able to support this. I have nothing against Mr. Kirogo, but I do not think the vetting Report gives me sufficient comfort to see him as somebody who is going to hold that position. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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